nemogu se ubrojit u musko
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Dijeta he-he 
,pazi sad :
Pita s visnjama,pita s jabukama,pita bundevara,posni kolac s visnjama,
posne pizze,prebranac,podvarak,salata od tunjevine,lignje na zaru,riba sa rostilja,vocne salate,proja,kompot od breskvi iz konzerve,kompot od jagoda iz konzerve,ananas iz iz konzerve,spagete sa tomatinom i biljnim sirom....
Bojim se da cu morati da ispovedim greh stomakougadjanja
Nema tu dijete nikakve,prijatelju,cesto mi se desi da nabacim koje kilo dok je post...
,pazi sad :Pita s visnjama,pita s jabukama,pita bundevara,posni kolac s visnjama,
posne pizze,prebranac,podvarak,salata od tunjevine,lignje na zaru,riba sa rostilja,vocne salate,proja,kompot od breskvi iz konzerve,kompot od jagoda iz konzerve,ananas iz iz konzerve,spagete sa tomatinom i biljnim sirom....
Bojim se da cu morati da ispovedim greh stomakougadjanja
Nema tu dijete nikakve,prijatelju,cesto mi se desi da nabacim koje kilo dok je post...
Svako zivi onako kako mu odgovara
SOY - The Dark Side of America's Favorite Health Food Revealed
Dr. Mercola's Comment:
http://www.mercola.com/2005/mar/23/soy.htm
Clinical Characteristics and Pharmacokinetics of Purified Soy Isoflavones: Multiple-Dose Administration to Men with Prostate Neoplasia
Leslie Fischer, Chrysa Mahoney, A. Robert Jeffcoat, Matthew A. Koch, Brian F. Thomas, John L. Valentine, Thomas Stinchcombe, Jarol Boan, James A. Crowell, Steven H. Zeisel
A phase I clinical trial was conducted to determine the safety, pharmacokinetic parameters, and efficacy of orally administered isoflavones (genistein and daidzein, potential cancer chemotherapeutic agents) over a 3-mo period in men with prostate neoplasia. Twenty men, ages 40 and above, with stage B, C, or D adenocarcinoma of the prostate were treated with a multiple-dose regimen of a soy isoflavone formulation (delivering approximately 300 or 600 mg/day genistein and half this much daidzein) for 84 days. The delivered dose of isoflavones was more than 10-fold higher than that typically taken by prostate cancer patients. In men with prostate cancer, relatively minor side effects of chronic isoflavone treatment were observed including some estrogenic effects (breast changes, increased frequency of hot flashes). Serum dehydroepiandrosterone was decreased by 31.7% (P = 0.0004) at the end of treatment. Except for those subjects whose prostate-specific antigen (PSA) values were below 0.4 ng/ml, subjects had a history of increasing PSA levels prior to the trial. This increase continued during the trial both while on soy isoflavones and after treatment was discontinued. On average the rate of rise accelerated after soy isoflavones were discontinued, but that difference did not attain statistical significance. Genistein and daidzein were rapidly cleared from plasma and excreted in urine. Pharmacokinetic data for chronic dose administration were similar to single-dose administration for the isoflavones investigated except that we observed slightly longer circulation time for daidzein.
http://www.leaonline.com/doi/abs/10.120 ... nalCode=nc
Dr. Mercola's Comment:
http://www.mercola.com/2005/mar/23/soy.htm
Clinical Characteristics and Pharmacokinetics of Purified Soy Isoflavones: Multiple-Dose Administration to Men with Prostate Neoplasia
Leslie Fischer, Chrysa Mahoney, A. Robert Jeffcoat, Matthew A. Koch, Brian F. Thomas, John L. Valentine, Thomas Stinchcombe, Jarol Boan, James A. Crowell, Steven H. Zeisel
A phase I clinical trial was conducted to determine the safety, pharmacokinetic parameters, and efficacy of orally administered isoflavones (genistein and daidzein, potential cancer chemotherapeutic agents) over a 3-mo period in men with prostate neoplasia. Twenty men, ages 40 and above, with stage B, C, or D adenocarcinoma of the prostate were treated with a multiple-dose regimen of a soy isoflavone formulation (delivering approximately 300 or 600 mg/day genistein and half this much daidzein) for 84 days. The delivered dose of isoflavones was more than 10-fold higher than that typically taken by prostate cancer patients. In men with prostate cancer, relatively minor side effects of chronic isoflavone treatment were observed including some estrogenic effects (breast changes, increased frequency of hot flashes). Serum dehydroepiandrosterone was decreased by 31.7% (P = 0.0004) at the end of treatment. Except for those subjects whose prostate-specific antigen (PSA) values were below 0.4 ng/ml, subjects had a history of increasing PSA levels prior to the trial. This increase continued during the trial both while on soy isoflavones and after treatment was discontinued. On average the rate of rise accelerated after soy isoflavones were discontinued, but that difference did not attain statistical significance. Genistein and daidzein were rapidly cleared from plasma and excreted in urine. Pharmacokinetic data for chronic dose administration were similar to single-dose administration for the isoflavones investigated except that we observed slightly longer circulation time for daidzein.
http://www.leaonline.com/doi/abs/10.120 ... nalCode=nc
snaga je sposobnost da golim rukama razlomimo tablu cokolade na 4 dijela - i pojedemo samo jedan
Hm, nisam bas najsigurnija da razumem...
Poznato je da soja sprecava absorpciju nekih lekova. Npr, moj muz je poceo da pije synthorid hormon tiroide i na njemu pise da ne treba uzimati soju i njene prozivode do 4h posle uzimanja leka.
Ali nigde nisam nasla da je upotreba soje, u nekim umerenim kolicinama, nezdrava.
Poznato je da soja sprecava absorpciju nekih lekova. Npr, moj muz je poceo da pije synthorid hormon tiroide i na njemu pise da ne treba uzimati soju i njene prozivode do 4h posle uzimanja leka.
Ali nigde nisam nasla da je upotreba soje, u nekim umerenim kolicinama, nezdrava.
Da, ovo je bila svakodnevna dijeta u mnogostruko povećanim dozama sojinih preparata u cilju otkrivanja delotvornih dejstva na adenokarcinom prostate.
Ona koju sam ja ranije našla je bila dijeta u fiziološkim dnevnim dozama u kojim nije došlo ni do kakvih promena.
Generalno, mi Srbi ne koristimo toliko soju u ishrani, za razliku od Amerikanaca. Ovo što smo počeli mi pojedini da je koristimo za vreme posta, i u količini u kojoj je koristimo... bi bila čak i manje od fizioloških tako da verujem da nam se to neće obiti o glavu.
Generalno za svaku namirnicu bi mogli da pronađemo hrpu razloga za i protiv...neko je već rekao.
tako je i za soju, u nekim normalnim dozama je čak šta više preporučljiva(koliko se vidi u ovim radovima), a u prevelikim dozama...nije
Ona koju sam ja ranije našla je bila dijeta u fiziološkim dnevnim dozama u kojim nije došlo ni do kakvih promena.
Generalno, mi Srbi ne koristimo toliko soju u ishrani, za razliku od Amerikanaca. Ovo što smo počeli mi pojedini da je koristimo za vreme posta, i u količini u kojoj je koristimo... bi bila čak i manje od fizioloških tako da verujem da nam se to neće obiti o glavu.
Generalno za svaku namirnicu bi mogli da pronađemo hrpu razloga za i protiv...neko je već rekao.
tako je i za soju, u nekim normalnim dozama je čak šta više preporučljiva(koliko se vidi u ovim radovima), a u prevelikim dozama...nije