Imam bebu od 4 meseca i do sada sam joj hranu pravila sa rosom,
ali sam cula da su druge vode dobre za bebe a povoljnije,npr.aqva viva.
Da li neko ima iskustvo sa kupovnom vodom,tj.flasiranom.?
Unapred hvala
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Aleksandra79
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Reci mi molim te koliko po sastavu flora treba da ima voda.Ja koristim Janu posto ima manje natrija nego ostale vode koje su na trzistu ovdje kod nas i to samo za pice, a za pravljenje hrane koristim obicnu prokuhanu vodu jer nam je gradska voda odlicna dok je za pice prokuhana ruzna tj.meni je ruzna.sprle napisao:Sada, posto su zubi uveliko krenuli da rastu sam presla na Voda Voda, posto ima fluor u sebi.
Jos nesto mojoj cerki su nikla prva dva zubica prije 15 dana da li vec treba da vodim racuna o unosu flora u njen organizam.
Anđela 25.10.2004
Tanja, probacu sto krace da odgovorim na tvoja pitanja, mada u sustini odgovor zavisi od mnogo cinilaca. Dobro je sto dajes sa manje natrijuma detetu vodu, zbog bubrega. Sto se fluora tice, situacija kod nas je recimo da se u Bgd ne fluorise voda. Da su nase vode siromasne, tako da je neophodno uneti fluor u tabletama kako bi se izvrsila prevencija od kariesa. To predstavlja i najjeftiniju zastitu. Kada bi se nase vode fluorisale, smanjio bi se broj kariesa za 60 %. Koncentracija fluora u vodi u Beogradu je manja od 0,3 mg/l, sto je minimum.
Posto ovaj mineral pruza odlicnu zastitu od kvarenja zuba, jer karies jeste gubitak minerala iz zubnog tkiva, preporucuju se i odredjene doze za decu. Ukoliko je nivo mali kao sto je 0,3 mg/l, neophodno je dodati tabletice. To se radi od 6 tog meseca zivota.
Svetska zdravstvena organizacija preporucuje sledece doze:
6 meseci do 2 godine - 0,25 miligrama
2 do 4 godine - 0,5 miligram
4 do 16 godina - 1 miligram
Ovo vazi za situaciju u Beogradu, gde je ispod nivoa fluor. Ukoliko je u vasem mestu fluor u vodi iznad granice od 0,7 mg/l, nema potrebe za dopunom. Tako da je najbolje da pozoves Ministarstvo zdravlja i raspitas se. I naravno da pitas pedijatra i decjeg stomatologa.
Visak fluora moze da bude stetan. Preterano uzimanje fluora, moze da izazove fluorozu. Zbog toga moras proveriti tacno koliko i da li se koristi fluor u vasem mestu, posto dajes i "cesmovachu" detetu.
Sto se samih zubica tice, cim krenu da rastu, treba voditi racuna o njihovoj higijeni.
Ne uspavljivati flasicom dete, ne davati sokove sa secerom, mleko pred spavanje. Dati detetu posle toga vodicu, kako bi ispralo usta i cistiti mu zubice redivno. I fluor nikako ne davati u kombinaciji sa mlekom.
Posto ovaj mineral pruza odlicnu zastitu od kvarenja zuba, jer karies jeste gubitak minerala iz zubnog tkiva, preporucuju se i odredjene doze za decu. Ukoliko je nivo mali kao sto je 0,3 mg/l, neophodno je dodati tabletice. To se radi od 6 tog meseca zivota.
Svetska zdravstvena organizacija preporucuje sledece doze:
6 meseci do 2 godine - 0,25 miligrama
2 do 4 godine - 0,5 miligram
4 do 16 godina - 1 miligram
Ovo vazi za situaciju u Beogradu, gde je ispod nivoa fluor. Ukoliko je u vasem mestu fluor u vodi iznad granice od 0,7 mg/l, nema potrebe za dopunom. Tako da je najbolje da pozoves Ministarstvo zdravlja i raspitas se. I naravno da pitas pedijatra i decjeg stomatologa.
Visak fluora moze da bude stetan. Preterano uzimanje fluora, moze da izazove fluorozu. Zbog toga moras proveriti tacno koliko i da li se koristi fluor u vasem mestu, posto dajes i "cesmovachu" detetu.
Sto se samih zubica tice, cim krenu da rastu, treba voditi racuna o njihovoj higijeni.
Ne uspavljivati flasicom dete, ne davati sokove sa secerom, mleko pred spavanje. Dati detetu posle toga vodicu, kako bi ispralo usta i cistiti mu zubice redivno. I fluor nikako ne davati u kombinaciji sa mlekom.
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Beba tesko kaki zbog promene vode
Za moje dete sam do 11. meseca koristila odlicnu Humana vodu za bebe koju nisam prokuvavala. Zatim sam presla na Rosu koju takodje nisam prokuvavala i dete je vec posle par dana pocelo teze i sa naporom da kaki, uglavnom tvrde stolice. Dvadesetak dana sam bila uporna s tom vodom a onda se savetovala sa pedijatrom koja mi je rekla da je definitivno problem zbog prelaska na drugu vodu i savetovala mi da se vratim na Humanu, a kada se stolice regulisu da probam sa Prolom vodom, zatim Aqua vivom i sl. Nemam nameru da mu dajem vodu sa cesme bar do godinu ipo dana, jer sam se uverila koliko nasa voda ima kamenca. S druge strane se plasim da mi dete ne postane preterano osetljivo na te vrste promena, najzad, kad smo mi bili mali, nije bas postojalo ni Humana vode, ni flasirane...
Kakvi su vasi saveti i iskustva?
Hvala!
Kakvi su vasi saveti i iskustva?
Hvala!
FLUORIDE
At least chlorine will evaporate from a glass of water if you let it sit for an hour or so. No such luck with fluoride. Even cooking, food processing, filtration, or digestion doesn't remove fluoride. Goes right up the food chain. Accumulates in fat cells.
Fluoride is added to the water supply of most American cities for the ostensible purpose of dental hygiene. The reader will be amazed to find out that such a thing is not only unlikely, but actually the reverse of the ongoing reality.
The U.S. has been fluoridating drinking water for so many decades that we hardly think about it. Very few articles appear about fluoridation in newspapers and magazines any more.
This is no accident.
What would you do if you suddenly found out that fluoride was not safe at all, but was actually a carcinogenic industrial waste? What would you think if you suddenly found out that fluoride doesn't stop tooth decay at all, but actually causes teeth to rot and crumble, and by the same mechanism also causes osteoporosis? And after you found out all this, would it surprise you that all federal health agencies have known these facts for years, but have been controlled by the political interests of the nuclear arms, aluminum, and phosphate manufacturers to keep it a secret? Why would they do that? So that, in the total absence of scientific proofs, a toxic industrial waste could be passed off on the public as a nutrient with necessary health benefits, to the tune of $10 billion per year. Or more.
Is a deception of this magnitude possible for the sophisticated, discerning American public? Perhaps Lance Ito could answer a question like that.
Let's start at the beginning.
WHAT IS FLUORIDE?
Fluorine is an element. It is a gas, never occurring naturally in its free state. In microscopic amounts complexed with other minerals, it is often listed as a trace mineral, a nutrient for human nutrition. Other sources disagree, holding that "no experimental work or clinical observations have proved that fluorine is in any manner essential for animals or man." (Alesen, p.5)
This has nothing to do with fluoride or fluoridation. The fluoride added to drinking water is a compound of fluorine that is a chemical byproduct of aluminum, steel, cement, phosphate, and nuclear weapons manufacturing. Such fluoride is manmade. In this form, fluoride has no nutrient value whatsoever. It is one of the most caustic of industrial chemicals. Fluoride is the active toxin in rat poisons and cockroach powder. (Dustrude)
"Hydrofluoric acid is used to refine high octane gasoline, to make fluorocarbons and chlorofluorocarbons for freezers and air conditioners, and to manufacture computer screens, fluorescent light bulbs, semiconductors, plastics, herbicides, -- and toothpaste. It also has the ability to burn flesh to the bone, destroy eyes, and sear lungs so that victims drown in their own body fluid."
- Foulkes
Once in the body, fluoride is a destroyer of human enzymes. It does this by changing their shapes. You'll remember from the Enzymes chapter (w ww.thedoctorwithin.com) that in human biochemistry, thousands of enzymes are necessary for various essential cell reactions that take place every second we're alive. (Howell) Without enzymes, we'd die instantaneously.
STARTING POINT
The most thorough explanation of the origin, action, diseases, and politics of fluoride was presented in a book called Fluoride the Aging Factor by the late John Yiamouyiannis, PhD. This book is the result of 25 years of research and working behind the scenes of the fluoride phenomenon. Big money generally means big monkey business, you may have noticed by now, and fluoride is right up there. Dr. Yiamouyiannis was the science director of the National Health Federation. He then went on to head the Safe Water Foundation. Dr Y can tell you all about monkey business. No one can comment intelligently about fluoride in the U.S. without addressing with the issues raised in his pivotal book.
It is simply a review of the literature on fluoride up to 1994. This chapter quotes freely from Dr Y's book.
Dr. Y starts by citing hundreds of international studies of fluoridation that have been conducted all over the world since the 1930s. After awhile, there seem to be just two types:
- the studies that were really looking to find out about fluoride
- the studies that were trying to cover up what had already been discovered
A few examples of the former:
* Taylor Study, University of Austin: fluoride concentration of 1PPM (parts per million) increases tumor
growth rate by 25%
* Fluoride is more poisonous than lead, and just less poisonous than arsenic
- Clinical Toxicology of Commercial Products -- 1984
* "A seven ounce tube of toothpaste, theoretically at least, contains enough fluoride to kill a small child."
- Procter&Gamble, quoted inFluoride the Aging Factor
p14
* Fluoride supplements should not be given to children under three years old
- 1992 Canadian Dental Association Proposed Fluoride Guidelines, Dr. Limeback<
FLUORIDE AND AGING
Austrian researchers proved in the 1970s that as little as 1 ppm fluoride concentration can disrupt DNA repair enzymes by 50%. When DNA can't repair damaged cells, we get old fast. (Klein)
Fluoride prematurely ages the body, mainly by distortion of enzyme shape. Again, when enzymes get twisted out of shape, they can't do their jobs. This results in collagen breakdown, eczema, tissue damage, skin wrinkling, genetic damage, and immune suppression. Practically any disease you can name may then be caused. (Yiamouyiannis, Ch.3)
All systems of the body are dependent upon enzymes. When fluoride changes the enzymes, this can damage:
o - the immune system
o - the digestive system
o - the respiratory system
o - blood circulation
o - kidney function
o - liver function
o - brain function
o - thyroid function
Things wear out too fast - the young body becomes old.
The distorted enzymes are proteins, but now they have become foreign protein, which we know is the exact cause of autoimmune diseases, such as lupus, arthritis, asthma, and arteriosclerosis.
Collagen is the body's glue. That's not just a metaphor; when collagen breaks down, tissues simply lose their substance, their framework. As we saw in the Collagen chapter, this is exactly how we get an enlarged heart, osteoporosis, atrophy and drooping of muscles, joint destruction, kidney and liver disease, falling organs, and bad teeth. Fluoride dissolves the body's glue simply by preventing new collagen from being formed. (Ishida)
Dr Y gives a masterful explanation of fluoride's disruption of collagen. Not only is the collagen incorrectly formed, it is wrongly mineralized. Some collagen, like bones and teeth, should be mineralized in order to give it hardness. Other collagen structures, like ligaments, tendons and, and muscles, should not be mineralized, in order to keep them flexible and resilient. Fluoride confuses the two types. Fluoride mineralizes the tendons, and muscles and ligaments, making them crackly and painful and inflexible. At the same time fluoride interferes with mineralization of bones and teeth, causing osteoporosis and mottling or dental fluorosis.
IMA JOS MNOGO TOGA..ALI ADMINISTRATOR CE OPET DA MI SALJE OPOMENU
At least chlorine will evaporate from a glass of water if you let it sit for an hour or so. No such luck with fluoride. Even cooking, food processing, filtration, or digestion doesn't remove fluoride. Goes right up the food chain. Accumulates in fat cells.
Fluoride is added to the water supply of most American cities for the ostensible purpose of dental hygiene. The reader will be amazed to find out that such a thing is not only unlikely, but actually the reverse of the ongoing reality.
The U.S. has been fluoridating drinking water for so many decades that we hardly think about it. Very few articles appear about fluoridation in newspapers and magazines any more.
This is no accident.
What would you do if you suddenly found out that fluoride was not safe at all, but was actually a carcinogenic industrial waste? What would you think if you suddenly found out that fluoride doesn't stop tooth decay at all, but actually causes teeth to rot and crumble, and by the same mechanism also causes osteoporosis? And after you found out all this, would it surprise you that all federal health agencies have known these facts for years, but have been controlled by the political interests of the nuclear arms, aluminum, and phosphate manufacturers to keep it a secret? Why would they do that? So that, in the total absence of scientific proofs, a toxic industrial waste could be passed off on the public as a nutrient with necessary health benefits, to the tune of $10 billion per year. Or more.
Is a deception of this magnitude possible for the sophisticated, discerning American public? Perhaps Lance Ito could answer a question like that.
Let's start at the beginning.
WHAT IS FLUORIDE?
Fluorine is an element. It is a gas, never occurring naturally in its free state. In microscopic amounts complexed with other minerals, it is often listed as a trace mineral, a nutrient for human nutrition. Other sources disagree, holding that "no experimental work or clinical observations have proved that fluorine is in any manner essential for animals or man." (Alesen, p.5)
This has nothing to do with fluoride or fluoridation. The fluoride added to drinking water is a compound of fluorine that is a chemical byproduct of aluminum, steel, cement, phosphate, and nuclear weapons manufacturing. Such fluoride is manmade. In this form, fluoride has no nutrient value whatsoever. It is one of the most caustic of industrial chemicals. Fluoride is the active toxin in rat poisons and cockroach powder. (Dustrude)
"Hydrofluoric acid is used to refine high octane gasoline, to make fluorocarbons and chlorofluorocarbons for freezers and air conditioners, and to manufacture computer screens, fluorescent light bulbs, semiconductors, plastics, herbicides, -- and toothpaste. It also has the ability to burn flesh to the bone, destroy eyes, and sear lungs so that victims drown in their own body fluid."
- Foulkes
Once in the body, fluoride is a destroyer of human enzymes. It does this by changing their shapes. You'll remember from the Enzymes chapter (w ww.thedoctorwithin.com) that in human biochemistry, thousands of enzymes are necessary for various essential cell reactions that take place every second we're alive. (Howell) Without enzymes, we'd die instantaneously.
STARTING POINT
The most thorough explanation of the origin, action, diseases, and politics of fluoride was presented in a book called Fluoride the Aging Factor by the late John Yiamouyiannis, PhD. This book is the result of 25 years of research and working behind the scenes of the fluoride phenomenon. Big money generally means big monkey business, you may have noticed by now, and fluoride is right up there. Dr. Yiamouyiannis was the science director of the National Health Federation. He then went on to head the Safe Water Foundation. Dr Y can tell you all about monkey business. No one can comment intelligently about fluoride in the U.S. without addressing with the issues raised in his pivotal book.
It is simply a review of the literature on fluoride up to 1994. This chapter quotes freely from Dr Y's book.
Dr. Y starts by citing hundreds of international studies of fluoridation that have been conducted all over the world since the 1930s. After awhile, there seem to be just two types:
- the studies that were really looking to find out about fluoride
- the studies that were trying to cover up what had already been discovered
A few examples of the former:
* Taylor Study, University of Austin: fluoride concentration of 1PPM (parts per million) increases tumor
growth rate by 25%
* Fluoride is more poisonous than lead, and just less poisonous than arsenic
- Clinical Toxicology of Commercial Products -- 1984
* "A seven ounce tube of toothpaste, theoretically at least, contains enough fluoride to kill a small child."
- Procter&Gamble, quoted inFluoride the Aging Factor
p14
* Fluoride supplements should not be given to children under three years old
- 1992 Canadian Dental Association Proposed Fluoride Guidelines, Dr. Limeback<
FLUORIDE AND AGING
Austrian researchers proved in the 1970s that as little as 1 ppm fluoride concentration can disrupt DNA repair enzymes by 50%. When DNA can't repair damaged cells, we get old fast. (Klein)
Fluoride prematurely ages the body, mainly by distortion of enzyme shape. Again, when enzymes get twisted out of shape, they can't do their jobs. This results in collagen breakdown, eczema, tissue damage, skin wrinkling, genetic damage, and immune suppression. Practically any disease you can name may then be caused. (Yiamouyiannis, Ch.3)
All systems of the body are dependent upon enzymes. When fluoride changes the enzymes, this can damage:
o - the immune system
o - the digestive system
o - the respiratory system
o - blood circulation
o - kidney function
o - liver function
o - brain function
o - thyroid function
Things wear out too fast - the young body becomes old.
The distorted enzymes are proteins, but now they have become foreign protein, which we know is the exact cause of autoimmune diseases, such as lupus, arthritis, asthma, and arteriosclerosis.
Collagen is the body's glue. That's not just a metaphor; when collagen breaks down, tissues simply lose their substance, their framework. As we saw in the Collagen chapter, this is exactly how we get an enlarged heart, osteoporosis, atrophy and drooping of muscles, joint destruction, kidney and liver disease, falling organs, and bad teeth. Fluoride dissolves the body's glue simply by preventing new collagen from being formed. (Ishida)
Dr Y gives a masterful explanation of fluoride's disruption of collagen. Not only is the collagen incorrectly formed, it is wrongly mineralized. Some collagen, like bones and teeth, should be mineralized in order to give it hardness. Other collagen structures, like ligaments, tendons and, and muscles, should not be mineralized, in order to keep them flexible and resilient. Fluoride confuses the two types. Fluoride mineralizes the tendons, and muscles and ligaments, making them crackly and painful and inflexible. At the same time fluoride interferes with mineralization of bones and teeth, causing osteoporosis and mottling or dental fluorosis.
IMA JOS MNOGO TOGA..ALI ADMINISTRATOR CE OPET DA MI SALJE OPOMENU
Upravo su nam kanadski pedijatri i savetovali da obavezno dajemo fluor detetu. Americka pedijatrijska Akademija preporucuje dodavanje fluora u razmerama koje sam napisala.
Daleko vece probleme izaziva karies, sa svojom progresivnoscu. Zalosno je da vise od polovine populacije ima pokvarene sestice, kao stalne zube. Upravo to je posledica nepravilnog pranja zuba i loseg kvaliteta vode. Necu da navodim koje sve bolesti moze da donese losa dentalna prevencija i higijena. Tek nedavno su deci poceli da zalivaju fisure, a to je praksa u nekim zemljama vec 30 godina.
Sto se stetnosti fluora tice, da, previse fluora moze izazvati fluorozu. Zato postoje odredjene mere kada se dodaje i koliko. Da li se unosi oralno ili se aplikuje u vidu gela. Vecu stetu moze da izazove prekomerno davanje AD kapi detetu. Sedenje za racunarom u trudnoci preterano. Da ne navodim dalje.
Natural, ne mozes tako bukvalno shvatati neki clanak, jer u medicini nisu 2 i 2 uvek 4. Nisam primetila da se ljudi u Beogradu mogu pohvaliti ne znam kakvim kvalitetom zuba, ali sam itekako primetila da Ameri i Kanadjani imaju jako dobre zube, kao i da im je zivotni vek mnogo duzi.
U svakom slucaju, deci se moraju cuvati zubi. Od samog njihovog nicanja, pa na dalje.
Daleko vece probleme izaziva karies, sa svojom progresivnoscu. Zalosno je da vise od polovine populacije ima pokvarene sestice, kao stalne zube. Upravo to je posledica nepravilnog pranja zuba i loseg kvaliteta vode. Necu da navodim koje sve bolesti moze da donese losa dentalna prevencija i higijena. Tek nedavno su deci poceli da zalivaju fisure, a to je praksa u nekim zemljama vec 30 godina.
Sto se stetnosti fluora tice, da, previse fluora moze izazvati fluorozu. Zato postoje odredjene mere kada se dodaje i koliko. Da li se unosi oralno ili se aplikuje u vidu gela. Vecu stetu moze da izazove prekomerno davanje AD kapi detetu. Sedenje za racunarom u trudnoci preterano. Da ne navodim dalje.
Natural, ne mozes tako bukvalno shvatati neki clanak, jer u medicini nisu 2 i 2 uvek 4. Nisam primetila da se ljudi u Beogradu mogu pohvaliti ne znam kakvim kvalitetom zuba, ali sam itekako primetila da Ameri i Kanadjani imaju jako dobre zube, kao i da im je zivotni vek mnogo duzi.
U svakom slucaju, deci se moraju cuvati zubi. Od samog njihovog nicanja, pa na dalje.
preporucujem www.thedoctorwithin.com ..ima tu mnogo zanimljivih stvari ali u chapter-u water...ima malo i o zabludama itd..
ne nameravam da menjam tudja misljenja, nemojte me pogresno shvatiti...zelim samo da ljudima pokazem i drugu stranu medalje..
onda, svako ima mogucnost da razmisli i da na osnovu toga zivi.
ako ukucate na pretrazivacu cak i na srpskom, hrvatskom, slovenackom ima dosta zanimljivih stvari... ako vam ostali evropski jezici nisu problem... onda, ima mnogo toga zanimljivog..
ovo sto vi pricate je tako plasirano i uzima se "zdravo za gotovo"..
to sto pricate o zdravlju zuba nase nacije u odnosu na ostale.
verujte mi nema to mnogo veze sa fluorom..vec sa kulturom, materijalnim stanjem.. pod tim mislim na samu zdravstvenu kulturu pa onda na navike u ishrani...a o materijalnom..vec, nazalost svi znamo..ali tu ne spada samo ishrana veci i pristup literaturi...nalzalost, cak i kod medicinskog osoblja...specijalizacije....itd.
ne nameravam da menjam tudja misljenja, nemojte me pogresno shvatiti...zelim samo da ljudima pokazem i drugu stranu medalje..
onda, svako ima mogucnost da razmisli i da na osnovu toga zivi.
ako ukucate na pretrazivacu cak i na srpskom, hrvatskom, slovenackom ima dosta zanimljivih stvari... ako vam ostali evropski jezici nisu problem... onda, ima mnogo toga zanimljivog..
ovo sto vi pricate je tako plasirano i uzima se "zdravo za gotovo"..
to sto pricate o zdravlju zuba nase nacije u odnosu na ostale.
verujte mi nema to mnogo veze sa fluorom..vec sa kulturom, materijalnim stanjem.. pod tim mislim na samu zdravstvenu kulturu pa onda na navike u ishrani...a o materijalnom..vec, nazalost svi znamo..ali tu ne spada samo ishrana veci i pristup literaturi...nalzalost, cak i kod medicinskog osoblja...specijalizacije....itd.
Niti ja imam nameru da menjam bilo cije nazore, nacin zivota i slicno. Jedino sto mi smeta je sto je ovo forum Pedijatrije, a ne crnjaka. Tako da mislim da je izuzetno kontraproduktivno da se plasira neki clanak tog tipa novopecenim majkama. One su dovoljno istraumirane, jer su u novonastaloj situaciji, tako da na ovaj forum dolaze po savet i pozitivne komentare. Sto se tice fluora, uzorak dece koja je uzimala isti u Beogradu u odnosu na one druge, pokazuje da je karies prisutan kod ove druge grupacije. Isto se odnosi i na trudnice. Cak i pocetni karies se leci kada zubar nanese fluor.
Karies nije bolest koja se moze leciti travama, cajevima, auto sugestijom. Medjurim, izaziva mnogo toga loseg ljudskom organizmu. Ali, kao i svaka druga bolest ona se moze spreciti. Poenta je upravo u prevenciji.
Ako imate odgovarajuci metod kojim se moze karies spreciti i izleciti, slobodno ga iznesite. Nemam nista protiv.
Karies nije bolest koja se moze leciti travama, cajevima, auto sugestijom. Medjurim, izaziva mnogo toga loseg ljudskom organizmu. Ali, kao i svaka druga bolest ona se moze spreciti. Poenta je upravo u prevenciji.
Ako imate odgovarajuci metod kojim se moze karies spreciti i izleciti, slobodno ga iznesite. Nemam nista protiv.
Niti ja imam nameru da menjam bilo cije nazore, nacin zivota i slicno. Jedino sto mi smeta je sto je ovo forum Pedijatrije, a ne crnjaka. Tako da mislim da je izuzetno kontraproduktivno da se plasira neki clanak tog tipa novopecenim majkama. One su dovoljno istraumirane, jer su u novonastaloj situaciji, tako da na ovaj forum dolaze po savet i pozitivne komentare. Sto se tice fluora, uzorak dece koja je uzimala isti u Beogradu u odnosu na one druge, pokazuje da je karies prisutan kod ove druge grupacije. Isto se odnosi i na trudnice. Cak i pocetni karies se leci kada zubar nanese fluor.
Karies nije bolest koja se moze leciti travama, cajevima, auto sugestijom. Medjurim, izaziva mnogo toga loseg ljudskom organizmu. Ali, kao i svaka druga bolest ona se moze spreciti. Poenta je upravo u prevenciji.
Ako imate odgovarajuci metod kojim se moze karies spreciti i izleciti, slobodno ga iznesite. Nemam nista protiv.
Karies nije bolest koja se moze leciti travama, cajevima, auto sugestijom. Medjurim, izaziva mnogo toga loseg ljudskom organizmu. Ali, kao i svaka druga bolest ona se moze spreciti. Poenta je upravo u prevenciji.
Ako imate odgovarajuci metod kojim se moze karies spreciti i izleciti, slobodno ga iznesite. Nemam nista protiv.
pa, nemojte se odmah ljutiti.
prvo ne vidim da sam ja zapocela pricu o fluoru na stranici pedijatrije..a ne vidim ni zasto odmah vredjati "crnjaci" i ostalo.
to sto je majka istraumirana, to je stvarno ruzno reci. pa sada i da je istraumirana...nije valjda ostala polu-pismena ili je ostala bez razuma pa ne moze da procita i nadje i razmisli.
cim se nalazi na internetu da trazi pomoc...sigurno je zainteresovana za nesto vise sto je dobila u domu zdravlja. mislim da ove stranice tome i sluze.
i naravno da cim nesto novo saznam javljam, to ocekujem i od vas
prvo ne vidim da sam ja zapocela pricu o fluoru na stranici pedijatrije..a ne vidim ni zasto odmah vredjati "crnjaci" i ostalo.
to sto je majka istraumirana, to je stvarno ruzno reci. pa sada i da je istraumirana...nije valjda ostala polu-pismena ili je ostala bez razuma pa ne moze da procita i nadje i razmisli.
cim se nalazi na internetu da trazi pomoc...sigurno je zainteresovana za nesto vise sto je dobila u domu zdravlja. mislim da ove stranice tome i sluze.
i naravno da cim nesto novo saznam javljam, to ocekujem i od vas