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 Tema posta: AUTIZAM
PostPoslato: Pon Sep 11, 2006 8:57 pm 
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Zna li neko po cemu se prepoznaje autizam?


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PostPoslato: Uto Sep 12, 2006 11:01 am 
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evo ti link mozda ti pomogne.
http://www.vasezdravlje.com/izdanje/clanak/436/

na google ukucaj autizam i dobices bezbroj informacija. POZZ


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PostPoslato: Sre Maj 30, 2007 11:39 am 
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Autizam je vrlo specifično stanje, obično roditelji počnu da ga primećuju oko 3 godine života, jer dete deluje odsutno, ne odaziva se na poziv- kao da ne čuje, izoluje se, ne zanimaju ga druga deca, ima specifičnu igru, opčinjen je nekim stvarima, često ponavlja jednu te istu radnju, često i ne progovore ili progovore ali izbegavaju da pričaju. Ovo sve sam navela za specifičan autizam, medjutim postoje i oni lakši oblici gde dete ima samo elemente autizma.. U svakom slučaju ukoliko sumnjate da nešto nije u redu, obratite se defektologu. Pozdrav


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http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic ... utism.aspx


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 Tema posta: autizam test Mchat
PostPoslato: Pet Dec 12, 2008 10:23 pm 
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Ovo je jednostavan test za moguce prepoznavanje autizam koje se radi u Americi. Ovaj test je za deco od 18 meseci i nadalje.

Postoji i detaljniji test na interentu pokusacu da nadjem.


Does your child enjoy being swung, bounced on your knee, etc.?
Yes
No



2.
Does your child take an interest in other children?
Yes
No



3.
Does your child like climbing on things, such as up stairs?
Yes
No



4.
Does your child enjoy playing peek-a-boo/hide-and-seek?
Yes
No



5.
Does your child ever pretend, for example, to talk on the phone or take care of dolls, or pretend other things?
Yes
No



6.
Does your child ever use his/her index finger to point, to ask for something?
Yes
No



7.
Does your child ever use his/her index finger to point, to indicate interest in something?
Yes
No



8.
Can your child play properly with small toys (e.g. cars or bricks) without just mouthing, fiddling, or dropping them?
Yes
No



9.
Does your child ever bring objects over to you (parent) to show you something?
Yes
No



10.
Does your child look you in the eye for more than a second or two?
Yes
No



11.
Does your child ever seem oversensitive to noise? (e.g., plugging ears)
Yes
No



12.
Does your child smile in response to your face or your smile?
Yes
No



13.
Does your child imitate you? (e.g., you make a face-will your child imitate it?)
Yes
No



14.
Does your child respond to his/her name when you call?
Yes
No



15.
If you point at a toy across the room, does your child look at it?
Yes
No



16.
Does your child walk?
Yes
No



17.
Does your child look at things you are looking at?
Yes
No



18.
Does your child make unusual finger movements near his/her face?
Yes
No



19.
Does your child try to attract your attention to his/her own activity?
Yes
No



20.
Have you ever wondered if your child is deaf?
Yes
No



21.
Does your child understand what people say?
Yes
No



21.
Does your child sometimes stare at nothing or wander with no purpose?
Yes
No



23.
Does your child look at your face to check your reaction when faced with something unfamiliar?
Yes
No








Here is the answer key. These are the "failing" answers. Critical items are bold.

1. no
2. no
3. no
4. no
5. no
6. no
7. no
8. no
9. no
10. no
11. yes
12. no
13. no
14. no
15. no
16. no
17. no
18. yes
19. no
20. yes
21. no
22. yes
23. no

Children who fail 3 or more items, or 2 or more critical items, should be referred to a specialist to evaluate for autism.

Examples:
A. if you answered "no" to questions 13 and 15, your child has failed the MCHAT.
B. if you answered "no" to 19, 21, and 23, your child has failed the MCHAT.

When you FAIL the MCHAT, you should bring a copy of the test to your regular ped, and ask for a referral to a developmental specialist, who is qualified to evaluated for autism. Your regular ped is NOT qualified to diagnose autism.


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 Tema posta: Detaljnije
PostPoslato: Pet Dec 12, 2008 10:25 pm 
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i jos dve testa:

ChildBrain PDD online test
www.childbrain.com/pddq6.shtml

CARS
ags.pearsonassessments.com/group.as...
C.A.R.S.

Directions: For each category, rate the behaviors relevant to each item
of the scale. For each item, circle the number which corresponds to the
statement that best describes your child. You may indicate the child is
between two descriptions by using ratings of 1.5, 2.5, or 3.5.
Abbreviated rating criteria are provided for each scale.

I. Relating to People:
1 No evidence of difficulty or abnormality in relating to people. The
child's behavior is appropriate for his or her age. Some shyness,
fussiness of annoyance at being told what to do may be observed, but not
to an atypical degree
1.5
2 Mildly abnormal relationships. The child may avoid looking the adult
in the eye, avoid the adult, or become fussy if interaction is forced,
be excessively shy, not be as responsive to the adult as typical, or
cling to parents somewhat more than most children of the same age.
2.5
3 Moderately abnormal relationships. The child shows aloofness(seems
unaware of adults) at times. Persistent and forceful attempts are
necessary to get the child's attention at times. Minimal contact is
initiated by the child.
3.5
4 Severely abnormal relationships. The child is constantly aloof or
unaware of what the adult is doing. He or she almost never responds or
initiates contact with the adult. Only the most persistent attempts to
get the child's attention have any effect.

II Imitation:
1 appropriate imitation. The child can imitate sounds, words, and
movements which are appropriate for his or her skill level.
1.5
2 Mildly abnormal imitation. The child imitates simple behaviors such
as clapping or single verbal sounds most of the time: occasionally,
imitates only after prodding or a delay.
2.5 Moderately abnormal imitation. The child imitates only part of the
time and requires a great deal of persistence and help from the adult;
frequently imitates only after a delay.
3.5
4 severely abnormal imitation. The child rarely or never imitates
sounds, words, or movements even with prodding and assistance.

III Emotional response:
1 Age-appropriate and situation-appropriate responses. The child shows
the appropriate type and degree of emotional response as indicated by a
change in facial expression, posture, and manner.
1.5
2 Mildly abnormal emotional responses. The child occasionally displays
a somewhat inappropriate type or degree of emotional response.
Reactions are sometimes unrelated to the objects or event surrounding
them.
2.5
3 Moderately abnormal emotional responses. The child shows definite
signs of inappropriate type and/or degree of emotional response.
Reactions may be quite inhibited or excessive and unrelated to the
situation; may grimace, laugh, or become rigid even though no apparent
emotion producing objects or events are present.
3.5
4 Severely abnormal emotional responses. Responses are seldom
appropriate to the situation; once the child gets in a certain mood, it
is very difficult to change the mood. Conversely, the child may show
wildly different emotions when nothing has changed.

IV Body Use:
1 Age appropriate body use. The child moves with the same ease,
agility, and coordination of a normal child of the same age.
1.5
2 Mildly abnormal body use. Some minor peculiarities may be present,
such as clumsiness, repetitive movements, poor coordination or the rare
appearance of more unusual movements.
2.5
3 Moderately abnormal body use. Behaviors that are clearly strange or
unusual for a child of this age may include strange finger movements,
peculiar finger or body posturing, staring, picking at the body,
self-directed aggression, rocking, spinning, or toe walking.
3.5
4 Severely abnormal body use. Intense of frequent movements of the type
listed above are signs of severely abnormal body use. The behaviors may
persist despite attempts to discourage them or involve the child in
other activities.

V Object Use:
1 Appropriate use of, and interest in, toys and other objects. The
child shows normal interest in toys and other objects appropriate for
his or her skill level and uses these toys in appropriate ways.
1.5
2 Mildly inappropriate use of, and interest in, toys and other objects.
The child may show atypical interest in a toy or play with it in an
inappropriate, childish way (e.g. banging or sucking on the toy).
2.5
3 Moderately inappropriate use of, and interest in, toys and other
objects. The child may show little interest in toys or other objects,
or he may be preoccupied with using an object or toy in some strange
way. He or she may focus on some insignificant part of the toy, be come
fascinated with light reflection off the object, repetitively move some
part of the object, or play with the object exclusively.
3.5
4 Severely inappropriate use of, and interest in, toys and other
objects. The child may engage in the same behaviors as above with
greater frequency and intensity. The child is difficult to distract
when engaged in these inappropriate activities.

VI Adaptation to change:
Age appropriate responses to change. While the child may notice or
comment on change in routines, he or she accepts these changes without
undue distress.
1.5
2 Mildly abnormal age appropriate responses to change. When an adult
tries to change tasks, the child may continue the same activity or use
the same materials.
2.5
3 Moderately abnormal age appropriate responses to change. The child
actively resists changes in routine, tries to continue the old activity,
and is difficult to distract. He or she may become angry and unhappy
when an established routine is altered.
3.5
4 Severely abnormal age appropriate responses to change. The child
shows sever reactions to change. If a change is forced, he or she may
become extremely angry or uncooperative and respond with tantrums.

VII Visual response:
1 The child's visual behavior is normal and appropriate for that age.
Vision is used together with the other senses as a way to explore a new
object.
1.5
2 Mildly abnormal visual response. The child must be occasionally
reminded to look at objects. The child may be more interested in
looking at mirrors or lighting than peers, may occasionally stare off
into space, or may avoid looking people in the eye.
2.5
3 Moderately abnormal visual response. The child must be reminded
frequently to look at what he or she is doing. He or she may stare off
into space, avoid looking people in the eye, look at objects from an
unusual angle, or hold objects very close to the eyes.
3.5
4 Severely abnormal visual response. The child consistently avoids
looking at people or certain objects and may show extreme forms of other
visual peculiarities described above.

VIII Listening Response:
1 Age appropriate listening responses. The child's listening behavior
is normal and appropriate for age. Listening is used together with the
other senses.
1.5
2 Mildly abnormal listening responses. There may be some lack of
response, or mild overreaction to certain sounds. Responses to sounds
may be delayed, and sounds may need repetition to catch the child's
attention. The child may be distracted by extraneous sounds.
2.5
3 Moderately abnormal listening responses. The child's responses to
sounds vary; often ignores a sound the first few times it is made; may
be startled or cover ears when hearing some everyday sounds.
3.5
4 Severely abnormal listening responses. The child overreacts and/or
underreacts to sounds to an extremely marked degree, regardless of the
type of sound.

IX Taste, Smell, and Touch Response and Use:
1 Normal use of, and response to taste, smell, and touch. The child
explores new objects in an age appropriate manner, generally by feeling
or looking. Taste or smell may be used when appropriate. When reacting
to minor everyday pain, the child expresses discomfort but does not
overreact.
1.5
2 Mildly abnormal use of, and responses to, taste, smell, and touch.
The child may persist in putting objects in his or her mouth; may smell
or taste inedible objects; may ignore or overreact to mild pain that a
normal child would express only discomfort.
2.5
3 Moderately abnormal use of, and responses to, taste, smell, and touch.
The child may be moderately preoccupied with touching, smelling, or
tasting objects or people. The child may react too much or too little.
3.5
4 Severely abnormal use of, and responses to, taste, smell, and touch.
The child is preoccupied with smelling, tasting, and feeling objects
more for the sensation than for normal exploration or use of the
objects. The child may completely ignore pain or react very strongly to
slight discomforts.

X Fear or Nervousness:
1 Normal fear or nervousness. The child's behavior is appropriate both
to the situation and to his or her age.
1.5
2 Mildly abnormal fear or nervousness. The child occasionally shows too
much or too little fear or nervousness compared to the reactions of a
normal child of the same age and similar situation.
2.5
3 Moderately abnormal fear or nervousness. The child shows either
quite a bit more or quite a bit less fear than is typical for even a
child younger or older in a similar situation.
3.5
4 Severely abnormal fear or nervousness. Fears persist even after
repeated experience with harmless events or objects. It is extremely
difficult to calm or comfort the child. The child may, conversely, fail
to show appropriate regard for the hazards other children of the same
age avoid.

XI Verbal Communication:
1 normal verbal communication, age and situation appropriate.
1.5
2 Mildly abnormal verbal communication. Speech shows overall
retardation. Most speech is meaningful; however, some echolalia or
pronoun reversal may occur. Some peculiar words or jargon may be used
occasionally.
2.5
3 Moderately abnormal verbal communication. Speech may be absent. When
present, verbal communication may be a mixture of some meaningful
communication and some peculiar speech such as jargon, echolalia, or
pronoun reversal. Peculiarities in meaningful speech may include
excessive questioning or preoccupation with particular topics.
3.5
4 Severely abnormal verbal communication. Meaningful speech is not
used. The child may make infantile squeals, weird or animal-like
sounds, complex noises approximating speech, or may show persistent,
bizarre use of some recognizable words or phrases.

XII Nonverbal Communication:
1 Normal use of nonverbal communication, age and situation appropriate.
1.5
2 Mildly abnormal use of nonverbal communication. Immature use of
nonverbal communication; may only point vaguely, or reach for what he or
she wants, in same situations where the same-age child may point or
gesture more specifically to indicate what he or she wants.
2.5
3 Moderately abnormal use of nonverbal communication. The child is
generally unable to express needs or desires nonverbally, and cannot
understand the nonverbal communication of others.
3.5
4 Severely abnormal use of nonverbal communication. The child only uses
bizarre or peculiar gestures which have no apparent meaning, and shows
no awareness of the meanings associated with the gestures or facial
expressions of others.

XII Activity Level:
1 Normal activity level for age and circumstances. The child is neither
more active nor less active than a normal child of the same age in a
similar situation.
1.5
2 Mildly abnormal activity level. The child may either be mildly
restless or somewhat "lazy" and slow moving at times. The child's
activity level interferes only slightly with his or her performance.
2.5
3 Moderately abnormal activity level. The child may be quite active and
difficult to restrain. He or she may have boundless energy or may not
go to sleep readily at night. Conversely, the child may be quite
lethargic, and need a great deal of prodding to get him or her to move
about.
3.5
4 Severely abnormal activity level. The child exhibits extremes of
activity or inactivity and may even shift from one extreme to the other.

XIV Level and Consistency of Intellectual Response:
1 Intelligence is normal and reasonably consistent across various areas.
The child is as intelligent as typical children of the same age and does
not have any unusual intellectual skills or problems.
1.5
2 Mildly abnormal intellectual functioning. The child is not as smart
as typical children of the same age; skills appear fairly evenly across
all areas.
2.5
3 Moderately abnormal intellectual functioning. In general, the child
is not as smart as typical children of the same age; however, the child
may function nearly normally in one or more intellectual areas.
3.5
4 Severely abnormal intellectual functioning. While the child
generally is not as smart as the typical child of the same age, he or
she may function even better than the normal child of the same age in
one or more areas.

XV General Impressions:
1 no Autism: The child shows none of the symptoms characteristic of
autism.
1.5
2 Mild Autism. The child shows only a few symptoms or only a mild
degree of autism.
2.5
3 Moderate autism. The child shows a number of symptoms or a moderate
degree of autism.
3.5
4 Severe autism. the child shows many symptoms or an extreme degree of
autism.



Category rating scores: write the score you gave your child for each
category here and add them together.
I
II
III
IV
V
VI
VII
VIII
IX
X
XI
XII
XIII
XIV
XV

Total:

15-30: non-autistic
30-36: mildly-moderately autistic (considered HFA or Asperger's--Asperger's
in particular between 30-33)
36-60: severely autistic

ADOS

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 Tema posta: autizam kako prepoznati - malo od mene
PostPoslato: Pet Dec 12, 2008 10:34 pm 
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Evo i mog kratkog objasnjenja: deca su razlicita i dok je kod nekih ocigledno da je autizam prisutan od ranih godina, kod neke dece nije toliko uocljivo.

Glavno je da dete ima problema u 2 od 3 nevedenih delova:
- komunikacija od toga da uopste ne govori do toga da govori ali ne sa tipicnom komukacijom, drugacije prica, ponavlja recenice sa TVa, ne zna kako da socijalno prica sa decom itd.
- socijalizacija - od totalne nezainteresovanosti za socijalizaciju do zainteresovanosti ali nemogucnosti za pravom socijalizacijom, recimo gleda ukoceno kako se druga deca igraju, voli da se igra sa odraslima ali nezainteresovano za decu
- ponasanje: hodanje na prstima, trcanje, hodanje u krug, lupanje vratima non stop, ili tako ponavljanje radnje, vrtenje igracki, tockova, dugi tantrumi koji nastaju skoro bez ikakvog razloga.

Ovo su samo neki primeri: nemaju sva deca sa autizmom ocigledne probleme sa ponasanjem, i slicno.

Recimo za malo dete komunikaciaj znaci ne samo da prica vec da recimo ako vam pokaze nesto kaziprstom da se okrene i pogleda vas: time deli svoju komukaciju i to je socijalna komunikacija. Dok dete sa autizmom ce verovatno pokazati na predmet ali se nece okrenuti i pogledati vas u oci da podeli svoju komunikaciju.

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PostPoslato: Pon Dec 15, 2008 11:21 am 
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posebno efikasan test je:
dali je vase dete primilo sve koktele vakcina koji su obavezni i one koji su neobavezni?

ako je odgovor DA, vasem detetu ste kupili srecku za lutriju "autizam za svako dete - svaka 10ta dobija"


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PostPoslato: Pon Dec 15, 2008 11:19 pm 
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kao lekar, moram da ukazem ostalim clanovima foruma da navodi korisnika b4blue nisu potkrepljeni naucno priznatim cinjenicama, sto (polu-prostacki) recnik i sugerise!
roditeljima, koji imaju ovakav problem u porodici ne treba otezavati polozaj, bilo kakvom sugestijom da su za takvo stanje deteta makar i nehoticno krivi, jer takva tvrdnja nije tacna!


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PostPoslato: Pon Dec 15, 2008 11:35 pm 
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drbgd je napisao:
kao lekar, moram da ukazem ostalim clanovima foruma da navodi korisnika b4blue nisu potkrepljeni naucno priznatim cinjenicama, sto (polu-prostacki) recnik i sugerise!
roditeljima, koji imaju ovakav problem u porodici ne treba otezavati polozaj, bilo kakvom sugestijom da su za takvo stanje deteta makar i nehoticno krivi, jer takva tvrdnja nije tacna!



kao roditelj,procitavsi sve ovo o cemu pise b4blue ,morala sam da procesljam internet i naravno,nikada nigde nije direktno dovedena u vezu vakcinacija(narocito MMR-om,posto se o tome polemise) sa autizmom!!!

oni zaludni mogu do besvesti da pljuju i trube o stetnosti vakcinacije!!!samo bih im postavila pitanje:imate li vi dece i gde se lecite kad se razbolite?kod baba vracara????

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PostPoslato: Uto Dec 16, 2008 3:02 pm 
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pogledajte samo ovu diskusiju i videcete link gde mozete da vidite vezu izmadju autizma, zivog srebra i vakcina.

a karakterizacija mog jezika kao polu prostackog samo vise govori o vama - krijete se iza laznog bontona a niko iz vase profesije ne preuzima odgovornost za sovje postupke. samo izvrsavate naredbe farmaceutske industrije ciji ste zapravo i poslanik.
to je naravno proizvod mediokratije, gde je vrlo mali broj naucnika stvarno uspesan u svom poslu, a velika vecina samo popunjava mesta u glomaznom i neefikasnom sistemu. oni koji su zaista talentovani cesto su marginalizovani zbog otkrica koji se ne svide vladajucoj mediokratskoj masineriji.

gde se lecim? ili kod doktora koji nije obuzet medikomanijom (takvi su redki, u srbiji poznajem samo jednog), ili uzimam savete dr Mercole.


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PostPoslato: Uto Dec 16, 2008 4:43 pm 
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b4blue je napisao:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/12/11/the-toxic-origins-of-autism.aspx


na ovo ste mislili????
koliko ja vidim ,ovo nije strucni clanak vec reklama doticnog doktora!!!!!poziva li on to na neko uclanjenje???da li ste se vi uclanili????

postovani gospodine bee2...ups malo sam se zbunila ,b4blue ,sta vi uopste trazite na ovom forumu???

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PostPoslato: Uto Dec 16, 2008 4:53 pm 
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ocigledno niste procitali clanak.... verovatno ste se rodili sa svim znanjem ovog sveta, pa i ne morate nista da procitate.

vasa "intuicija" ili "pronicljivost" je totalno promasila. verovatno ste ucili kod vidovite Milje Regulus... ja nemam veze sa gospodinom bee2.

sta trazim ovde? razumne ljude ...


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PostPoslato: Uto Dec 16, 2008 6:08 pm 
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ma,da,pogresila sam,vi niste bee2 samo neodoljivo podsecate na njega!!!!



izvinjavam se svima na ovoj temi!!!!zaista je previse ozbiljna stvar u pitanju da bi vas neko,pored svih problema koje imate,jos i optuzio da ste vi krivi za to sto vase dete ima autizam!!!!
strasno!!!nemam reci!!!!!

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PostPoslato: Uto Dec 16, 2008 8:45 pm 
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Nije sustina ko u sta veruje vec nacin na koji je doticna osoba napisala da su roditelji krivi. Nisu roditelji krivi. Ako postoji veza izmedju vakcina i autizma krivo je lekarsko drustvo do sada nisu dovoljno proucili vezu izmedju vakcina i autizma.

Kao neko ko je licno imao neverovatno reakciju na vakcine sa 10 godina verujem da je moguce da neciji organizmi nisu spremni na to bombradovanje hemikalijama.

Pitanje na ovoj diskusiji je bilo koji su simptomi autizma, kako znati da je autizam u pitanju a ne sta uzrokuje autizam.

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